At the White House press conference, EWTN reporter Owen Jensen asked Biden spokesperson Jen Psaki if President Joe Biden and Pope Francis would be discussing abortion at their upcoming meeting at the Vatican.

"Millions of Catholics will be watching when the President and Pope Francis meet. The White House has said they will discuss working together on efforts grounded in respect for fundamental human dignity. Question 1: will that include the dignity of the unborn?" asked Owen at the press briefing Wednesday.

"Well, Owen as you know, although you ask me most often, if not every time, about abortion. But I will say there is a great deal of agreement…" Psaki started off by saying. Owen began to respond to Psaki's assertion, but she demanded a chance to continue talking.

The first part of Psaki's answer talked about everything but abortion:

"I wanted to note since you follow this closely, is that there's a great deal of agreement and overlap with the President and Pope Francis on a range of issues: poverty, combating the climate crisis, ending the COVID-19 pandemic. These are all hugely important, impactful issues … that will be the centerpiece of what their discussion is when they meet. The President has met with him … this will be their fourth meeting, we expect a warm and constructive dialogue."

Then Psaki pivoted back to abortion:

"You are familiar with where the President stands. He's somebody who stands up for and believes that a woman’s right to choose is important."

Psaki then tried calling on someone else. But Owen came back by saying that "the Pope has said abortion is murder and it's like hiring a hitman. Does the President agree or disagree with that?" the reporter pressed.

"You know that the President believes in a woman's right to choose," Psaki concluded in the back-and-forth questioning.

Biden's stance on abortion came to the forefront at the beginning of September when his administration declared war against the state of Texas for their new restrictions on the practice. It led Biden to denounce his own belief that life begins at conception and left the White House trying to defend Biden's Catholic faith.

In other Papal news, Pope Francis will at some point visit Canada at the invitation of the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops.

This news comes amid upcoming meetings with Indigenous tribe leaders scheduled to happen at the Vatican by the end of the year.